Planting A WILDLIFE-FRIENDLY PRIVACY Fence - Ep. 251
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- Now that we have a new front deer fence and gates on the homestead, we can start planting on the fence line, which we have been looking forward to. Our main goal is not to create total privacy-but a wildlife-friendly fence line, which will also provide some beauty and great visual interest. A key focus was including vines that serve as the host plant for many of our native butterflies and moths-but also fruit and flowers for humans and for wildlife alike!
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00:00 - Introduction
02:00 - Espalier apples
11:50 - Aristolochia macrophylla
16:14 - Humulus lupulus
21:05 - Lonicera dioica
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Yes!! Please do a video on the host plants of North American butterflies and moths. I love your content and learn so much from you. I’ve also seen some videos about making a puddling station. It’s a simple project: shallow dish, sand, manure, and water. Helps them drink and get nutrients. Would also EAT up a video on butterfly and caterpillar identification.
Oh man, vines are lovely but I would totally be planting trees, especially small "groves" of evergreens along that fence line. Tree lined roadways always look wonderful and provide such a great shelterbelt for yards.
Plant multiple species and it looks way better than the copy paste hedges most people do. It looks like an actual forest when people change it up a bit
Passiflora incarnata is a host plant for Fritillary Butterflies. I live in Louisiana and the Gulf Fritillary and Variegated Fritillary are the most common species to use it. Not sure if you have fritillary species in New York. They will also die back to the roots every year, even here in our mild winters. They will come back from the root stock, but not always from the parent plant. They sprout from root runners anywhere from a few feet away to 30 feet or more from the original plant. They grow quickly and reach full size in a single season.
The butterflies are called that because they have little white markings on their wings that look like a comma or question mark
I learned something new, I had no idea that it was possible to graft multiple apple varieties onto one trunk. I had only ever heard of regular grafting. That fence is going to look amazing once the vines and trees have really taken hold! As always you've made very thoughtful selections with the plants you've chosen.
You can graft different fruits onto the same tree as well. Not all work and it’s very difficult but some different fruits can be mixed together
Host plants take attracting butterflies to another level. I've never seen (or heard of) a Zebra Longwing butterfly, until it showed up after I planted its host plant, Maypop (Passiflora incarnata) vine.
I was emphasizing more edible trees like chestnut before I better understood host plants. Now there are more oaks than there would have been. Them being the "best" host plant in temperate climates is great. Would be nice if I could improve the acorn leaching process so they could host me.
Passionvine hosts gulf fritillary, variegated fritillary, and zebra longwing caterpillars.
Yessss, came here to say this!
The fritillaria caterpillars are voracious eaters, and this suits the passiflora perfectly!
BTW, the growth rate of the passiflora is well known to,
at best,
be A BEAST!!
At worst, it's growth habit is compared to an out of control wisteria.
Even though it makes a fantastic screen, maybe it would be best to reconsider planting one on this fence... ?
(Maybe plant it further INSIDE the fenced area so as not to tempt the deer so much?)
The good news is those caterpillars WILL take the passion flower vines back to zero!!
(Thus, saving the fence from all that weight.)
But of course, the vines do not die.
They simply leaf out again.
And again.
And again!
And actually, since the passiflora is such a fast & heavy grower, it's the caterpillars that keep it in check.
Altho, I do not know if fritillaria makes it that far up north?
Speaking of the passiflora being such a heavy grower, I'm sitting here envisioning the weight of that vine putting a great strain on that fencing!
The posts seem hefty enough to support it, but the actual fencing seems a bit questionable to me...
But then, what do I know?
I'm not there.
Maybe that fence is stronger than it looks?
Hopefully there will be enough caterpillars keeping the weight down, which will prevent the vine from ever getting too heavy!!
Either way, the deer will be thanking you for providing their nice dinner!!
That small stretch of road might just become the new road hazard in the neighborhood!
It could be the new place for auto insurance agents to get to know as they end up writing so many cars off after being totaled from hitting a deer...
(Let's hope not!)
Again, maybe I'm wrong?
Maybe the deer won't try to eat the apples thru the fence?
Maybe they won't want to eat more leaves on the passiflora than the voracious fritillaria caterpillars?
Maybe the deer will never find this banquet by the side of the road...
I really like that quality fence. With deer it seems that its necessary to do it right. In my experience, vines in particular should be planted on the posts more than the wire for fence longevity. Don't want too much wind loading on the wire. In the future I feel you should consider removing any vines that become too massive. An eight foot fence is essentially a sail when covered with large vines. Unfortunately few native vines evolved to be small. I look forward to every video!
My mother's mantra was "prevent work". I heard that constantly during my childhood and didn't really understand what she meant. Now in my 70s, I certainly understand and am working on my own garden to eliminate plants that will cause me more work as I age.
Would it maybe help in this particular situation to simply add more posts for greater support between the current spans of fence?
I gotta agree...
These are all very good points!
I predict more posts will be needed.
I've never seen anyone plant between the posts either, for the very reasons listed above.
Perhaps they'll prove us all wrong!
🤞
Nice idea to have the fence function like a green wall, especially, with the trained apple branches. Will it act as an activity decoy, to drive the deer crazy, trying for fruit, while your garden remains safe? You've solved a mystery for me, in this episode. As a child I found a dead creature, which looked like a Humming Bird, without a beak. I'd never seen such a thing. Now, I believe that it was the moth you mentioned. Cool. My picture books couldn't have everything in them.
Yes!!!!! Any videos we can have from YOU on native and host plants would be gold! Thanks to you both!
Do you have a video on the fence installation? I would love to know more about it.
there was one a couple of years ago when they did the first section
May beautiful plants decorate your fence.
I am sure there is a local resource recovery site that has mulch and compost as opposed to getting organic supplies shipped in bags. OCRRA has a site where you can drop off woody material and vegetation and pick up into containers trucks and trailers.
Love the series thank you!
Local supplies tends to be contaminated with boomers using pesticides and herbicides
I often end up with too many bare root trees to plant at once so I just dig them into a annual bed (though our ground rarely freezes hard) then they can stay in the bed until they start to bud, sometimes a few months. Never had an issue with this method. Pots should be fine too if you get frozen ground.
That fence looks pretty light to be a trellis for trees or vines.
It's the wire deer fence, not the plastic one. Pretty sturdy. Trellises generally are there to keep plants in "line" and bear some but not most of the weight. Hurricane winds are another issue, but hopefully that never comes up.
They’ll have more trees hopefully grow and support more weight but that shouldn’t be an issue for a while. That fence can catch a deer running through it if it’s the fence I think it is.
WOW!
I hope you get Pipevine Swallowtails in the near future - they're spectacular. And who doesn't love a Tree Swallow? They are great insect eaters ... I can see the conflict there ... but butterflies and Clearwings are not the targets of swallowtails; mosquitoes and similar hideous biting insects are.
This is very much what I have envisioned for the roadside of my new property in Kentucky as well: deer fence and espalier trees! It's part of the overall Permaculture design I submitted as my final class project for certification. My additional parameter was being near a powerline right of way, so I can't have trees growing too tall or spreading out as the main path under the powerline has to be accessible. Keeping them in a plane on either side of the powerline made the most sense. Thanks for the additional plant suggestions! 👍😊👍
Have a similar problem...consider coppiceability in your Permaculture designs. More in main comment.
This channel and the way its content is presented, brings me so much peace, I wish I could afford this life style🙏🏽 God bless you🙏🏽
A quick way of dealing with a tree/bush that can't yet go in the ground, is to bury them in a bag of compost for the duration. Keep well watered. -- Be sure to keep grass and weeds away from the base of the plants, and - big tip - when adding mulch, put it nowhere near the base. I have just lost an old espalier by putting manure to close in. The trunk rotted and it died. --- I think shrubs and trees would have worked much better for you than espalier. These need careful and specific pruning several times a year. Hawthorn shrubs or the like would provide good nesting options as well as food. Espaliers won't. Be warned that hops can grow huge and be very heavy. Please make sure not to damage your fence.
Thanks for the usual great content. We would love a host plant video.
Beautiful plants ….we have lots in common….apart from the spade 😂id love to buy you a decent spade ….i get old very sharp stainless steel that have had a lifetime of wear ( hand down) ❤❤but still very sharp …watching you trying to dig 😂🫣😉😉
There is a hops native to the Northeast, Humulus lupulus var. lupuloides (synonym = Humulus americanus). The European hops is closely related, so the butterflies likely feed on both the same. They also cross-pollinate occasionally. The native species is seldom available commercially, but I've planted this one in my garden from a cutting of a wild hops plant.
I have done the espalier method with my fruit trees. i get young ones so I can easily train them. they are on my garden enclosure.
Very good video
I am curious, won’t planting applies along the fence, encourage deers along the fence line? Possibly harassing the fence?
As the espalier ages, they develop a large, knobbly base near soil and it looks very interesting.
Thanks for the video. Boundaries have recently become a thing for me...
1. Multigraft fruit trees tend to be favored by people with small spaces. They tend to be quite expensive. How did you decide on a triple grafted apple vs 3 apples of the same variety given you have lots of space.
2. 10 or more years ago neighbors planted a noise barrier to a road and previous owners planted a privacy hedge between my property. The power company contracted a rather terrible arborist and they bulk shredded both hedges. So, planning for such things may sadly be needed.
a) No chance your fence is on government land and future boundary disputes could occur?
b) Any thoughts on what you're doing under power lines? I've a solution using permaculture and coppicing for a power company proof hedge, but I've not seen nor heard of people thinking of this.
3. The hedge could also be a neighborhood draw and education point for your neighbors given dog walking traffic. Introducing new edibles/aesthetics. The channel Canadian Permaculture Legacy and some others have created boundaries with food/flowers to build community with and feed their neighbors.
4. You are looking comfortable squatting to work the soil. It's nice to see vs earlier videos kneeling on the soil. I've found it's led to a stronger back and legs as well as no ticks.
Where did you buy the fence and poles from ? TY
Would love a video on host plants. Working on rehabbing a large piece of property that has been overtaken by invasive barberry and hoping to turn part of it into a host/pollinator meadow.
I love your widnes of understanding the space around you❤❤❤
A hops vine can grow to 60’ in a summer, but is amenable to cutting back to keep it short.
Yes, would love a video on host plants, which I am trying to learn more about. Love hops plants, but when we lived in Phelps, near Geneva, they got eaten every year by the Japanese beetles; however, last time we visited a few years ago, I saw that one of our neighbors was growing a bunch of them and they were for a local craft brewery.
You're welcome for the fence idea
Cool Aristolochia! I have 2 Macropylla that are in their 2nd year. They all have something unique and interesting about their inflorescences😁
thank you from the great lakes
Love watching your videos! I live in the city and your videos transport me out into the countryside =)
So informative. I love it!
Enjoyed the video and appreciated the plant suggestions.
Nice Project !
Young steams are asible like asparagus 🇸🇮🐉🌈💪🏾
Any reason you opted not to dig a water well on the downslope side of the fence? I garden where water wells are essential, but perhaps they aren’t needed in your area.
You mention a new fence. Did you do a video on it? I saw the videos from 2 years ago but you called it "new". Maybe it is new but similar to the 2 year old so not worth a video. Anyway, it looks nice - and enjoyed the video.
Wisteria sinensis and the native wisteria twine in opposite directions from each other. I don’t remember which one is clockwise or which is counter clockwise.
i have lots of deer, and have parts of my garden where I fence them out, but a wildlife friendly deer fence is a little bit of an oxymoron
Will deer nibble on the vines if they are grown on the deer fence? I also was thinking of growing honey suckle on our deer fence we want to put up, but wasn’t sure if that is smart until I saw you are doing it too!
I have had deer nibble plants through large fencing. But the fence can provide some intimidation to deer and it's a bit harder to nibble through a fence, so there is some benefit. Also, this fence is next to a road, so traffic and the open space makes deer less interested in hanging out next to the fence...exposed and weird round wheeled noisy beasts hang around. As well, Summer mentioned dog walking neighbors, so do scent and view (as well) as people are further deterrents.
How much will you need to water while these get established? Can you get a hose to the fence line?
Did you watch the video? She brought a hose to water the apple tree.
@@nancymathisen9707sure, but she used a bucket for the second half of the video.
Could always link hoses though.
Where did you get the espalier trees from?
She mentioned the nursery, I believe it’s Raintree, in the beginning of the video. You can find it in the transcript.
Humulus lupulus is native to North America as well as Europe and Asia. I'm in Colorado and native hops grow on the creek banks near me.
Some plant high..did you
She DID mention (several times) that planting spot is on a hill, so drainage won't be an issue.
@@gardengatesopen was just a question.. I heard her say that .
@kathymacomber5115
Ok, maybe you know something I don't,
(I don't pretend to know everything!)
is there another reason to plant high, other than proper drainage?
I live in the South where we don't have much cold weather, maybe the cold is a factor? I dunno...